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June 01, 2007

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Eoghan

The great Prairie State is once again made safer from the dangers of alternate realities and plant intelligence. Won't you sleep a little safer?

I am saddened to hear of this, but such things don't surprise me anymore. In a way, it should be expected. Whenever a plant ally becomes known beyond a limited community this is the risk it runs. Sad, but true.

Eric M

Wow!! I guess I had better order my cactus clones now before they become illegal too.

Chuck

A sad day indeed. I just wish that one or two open minded intelligent people would make their way into politics. If there is any plant ally with less potential for abuse, I have not seen it. I do know a number of people who have tried Salvia, but almost all gave her up after the first time or two. It is simply not the party drug/hallucinogenic menace that the media has made her out to be. I have seen several news reports demonizing the plant over the last few years, and can tell that the reporters doing the story honestly had no idea what they were talking about. If the media would do a little research before they produce stories to scare the general public away from these sacred plants the world would be a better place. It just makes me shake my head and wonder what our society has become where such an important plant has become a pariah.

Eric M

Well most of the "law makers" in this country are stupid, fat, white old men. Do you really expect them to condone any thing that they can't extract their cut of the money from? This is why so many plants are illeagal in the world. How can something that grows and thrives according to it's own rules be forced to make money for some fat ass piece of s**t politician?

Eoghan

I think it goes beyond not being interested in anything they can't profit from. Above all, they are afraid of the opening of mind and the imminence of spirit.

Alex POllara

SO how many people have died of Salvia overdose? anyone anywhere? ladies and gents I give you your taxes at work

Tino

As much as I agree with the comments already posted above railing against the "powers that be" we must also share some of the responbilty. The reality is that much of the damage done to Salvia's reputation was done by unscrupulous purveyors of the ethneogen. For every Basement Shaman, thoughtfully seeking to enlighten while assisting the plant ally to propogate and dessiminate its knowledge, there are multiple "Wal Shamans" misrepresenting the properties for shortsighted quick financial gain. The marketing of Salvia, in "herbal -xtc" formulas etc., was the single largest contributing factor to its garnering such a negative reputation. These pornographers of plants systematically exploit and mislead, marketing to the young and stupid. However, we all share some of the blame, as these exploiters only exist because there are consumers who buy from them. The lesson to be learned is to know your purveyor and support only those purveyors who display the highest ethical standards. There are some realms of consumption where price should not be a factor. Vote with your dollars and when ever possible throw as much of your business of any kind to the good guys.

Allie

Ya'll talk about integrating entheogens into a healthy society. Why do you assume our society is healthy? Perhaps we as a culture are just barely wise enough to realize that we can't handle it. If we were healthy, we wouldn't be so threatened by other people choosing different paths, including alternate ways of perceiving consensual reality. Restrictive laws sadden me, and yet the majority of people act as if they're very insecure and seem to endorse this kind of lawmaking. *sigh* I feel my civil rights eroding . . .

spinzaar

What saddens me the most is how most likely every other state will jump on the band wagon. All i can think is that law makers think its their job to "MAKE" laws. Laws that only effect a minority of people seem to be the most popular these days. The true answer is to lower the pay these people receive. How can we be safe when its cash in hand to make stupid laws.

thecountrygoddess

Subject: Save Salvia in Illinois
Everyone, time to unite. Illinois Governor has the power to line veto anything on a bill, which might just save Salvia. If you go to my website at: https://www.thecountrygoddessshop.com/displayProductDocument.hg?productId=3141 you will see where you can email the Governor and save salvia. I have provided everything, what to email him, the bill number and the line number for salvia. Help me save it. Losing it will not only mean loosing salvia and a loss to the medical, spirtual and shaman community but will mean many jobs lost in Illinois, businesses closing and lost tax revenue. Please help save Salvia.

Please help us save Salvia, Send this email to as many of your friends and customers as you can and ask them to do the same.

aries

This business of banning plants is very sad. My heart sinks every time I hear about something like this. I don't understand why people don't understand that everything comes from plants, even the perscription med's people take every day. If these plants are lost, future medical treatments are lost and culture is lost. People need to wake up and realize the damage they are doing by jumping on the "BAN-Wagon".

Eoghan

Well, it would appear that we will soon see a real push to outlaw Salvia evrywhere in the US. Here's a video up on CNN today:

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/2007/07/16/costello.salvia.drug.affl

Eoghan

Miaow

Truly sad. I think it's insane our country bans *plants*: beautiful, living things, gifts from Nature/God/whatever you believe. Salvia for me, has been such a gentle substance. It's such a beautiful plant, such a beautiful green. I have not used it very much: it is not addictive. I'd say it occasionally "calls" me to experience it. On a related topic, I remember also how saddened I was when GHB was outlawed. It was the first time I ever actually wrote to our legislators, to no avail. GHB helped me control my OCD, by lessening severe symptoms, and removing self-destructive tendancies. fortunately, I finally was prescribed a pharmacuetical cocktail that just about completely eliminated all of my severe, life destroying aspects of OCD, and allowed me to come to terms with this "illness" that is an integral part of my personality. I accept it now, and can have actually learned to use this OCD-ish way my brain works for personal benefit. Of course, it took 16 years to come to terms with OCD. I'm rambling, but I guess my point is to all those who have OCD: please keep going on - life gets better. OCD is not only a "disability": you can come to terms with it and harness it so that it becomes a "superpower".

Miaow

Truly sad. I think it's insane our country bans *plants*: beautiful, living things, gifts from Nature/God/whatever you believe. Salvia for me, has been such a gentle substance. It's such a beautiful plant, such a beautiful green. I have not used it very much: it is not addictive. I'd say it occasionally "calls" me to experience it. On a related topic, I remember also how saddened I was when GHB was outlawed. It was the first time I ever actually wrote to our legislators, to no avail. GHB helped me control my OCD, by lessening severe symptoms, and removing self-destructive tendancies. fortunately, I finally was prescribed a pharmacuetical cocktail that just about completely eliminated all of my severe, life destroying aspects of OCD, and allowed me to come to terms with this "illness" that is an integral part of my personality. I accept it now, and can have actually learned to use this OCD-ish way my brain works for personal benefit. Of course, it took 16 years to come to terms with OCD. I'm rambling, but I guess my point is to all those who have OCD: please keep going on - life gets better. OCD is not only a "disability": you can come to terms with it and harness it so that it becomes a "superpower".

Miaow

Truly sad. I think it's insane our country bans *plants*: beautiful, living things, gifts from Nature/God/whatever you believe. Salvia for me, has been such a gentle substance. It's such a beautiful plant, such a beautiful green. I have not used it very much: it is not addictive. I'd say it occasionally "calls" me to experience it. On a related topic, I remember also how saddened I was when GHB was outlawed. It was the first time I ever actually wrote to our legislators, to no avail. GHB helped me control my OCD, by lessening severe symptoms, and removing self-destructive tendancies. fortunately, I finally was prescribed a pharmacuetical cocktail that just about completely eliminated all of my severe, life destroying aspects of OCD, and allowed me to come to terms with this "illness" that is an integral part of my personality. I accept it now, and can have actually learned to use this OCD-ish way my brain works for personal benefit. Of course, it took 16 years to come to terms with OCD. I'm rambling, but I guess my point is to all those who have OCD: please keep going on - life gets better. OCD is not only a "disability": you can come to terms with it and harness it so that it becomes a "superpower".

jenni

Just look at the creep who's fault this is. Fat white fucking bigot. Burn in hell Milner! Nobody really cares about salvia. Now innocent kids are going to be thrown into jail and have their futures ruined because of this fuckhole. http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/BillStatus.asp?DocNum=2589&GAID=8&DocTypeID=SB&LegId=23512&SessionID=50&GA=94 Click on Milner

David

It's a sad day when such a beautiful plant is banned from anywhere

Open Minds Lead to Open Doors.

Forrest

The reason they banned it is because a guy from Delaware committed suicide afterwards, because he thought he knew the truth to life after doing this herb.

Larry

No, that kid in Delaware was drunk and on accutane, and his parents were divorced. There was no trace of salvia in his body according to the autopsy results, yet the medical examiner went back and put salvia as a cause of death anyway. When will we take a stand? Our ancestors got pissed off by a two pence tax and formed a nation; here we sit in Bush land with the Patriot (sic) Act.

Matt

Stop posting videos of people on salvia. The people who do this are going to ruin it for everyone, not just the people in illinois.

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neal

As you said, at least there were thousands of plants disseminated throughout the states. That is one of the most positive, productive and empowering things any of us can do. Spread the wealth, our wealth, as far and wide as we can. Charge for it if necessary, go underground when necessary. Collect and propagate as many sacred plants as you can and spread them as far and wide as you can. Be smart, and cautious, but speak out when yopu can. Talk to friends, family, co-workers, legislators. Don't let ignorant people steal the world and seal our fate.

Suzi

Salvia is a gift and I am saddened to hear about the ban from Illinois. The power of the plant will live on!

Tom Dahlem

Amendment XIV, Section 1, Clause 2 of the United States Constitution is known as the Privileges or Immunities Clause. It states:
“ No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States ”

hence it can never be made illegal by a states government only federal.

Brian

Some states have legislated responsibly and enacted laws that prohibit the sale or possession of this plant by minors. Some states, like Illinois, have arrogantly decided that the legislature, apparently wielding some sort of divine authority, can toss even adults into prison for choosing to experiment with an unaltered plant.

Does due process exist? Any research on the negative effects of Salvia? There is no substantive basis for deciding to make possession of this plant an outright felony, besides stupidity. Heresay and ambiguity seem to be more than enough for these beady-eyed small-minded mucoids to preemptively render such a profoundly oppressive judgement.

The U.S.A. is gradually, and steadily becoming yet another indistinguishable regime whereby liberties are taken and given arbitrarily by governing bodies composed of ambitious short-sighted individuals acting not only as though they know what's best for everyone, but as if they are charged with the duty of eradicating every minute inconsistency and irregularity in society.

How irresponsible of me to not want to give up every ounce of personal freedom and individuality, for the children...

Wendy

Pledge of Allegiance: One nation under God.

Genesis 1: 29. 29 Then God said, "I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be yours for food. 30 And to all the beasts of the earth and all the birds of the air and all the creatures that move on the ground—everything that has the breath of life in it—I give every green plant for food." And it was so.

But not anymore.

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